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      CommentAuthordportela
    • CommentTimeNov 26th 2009
     
    It would be wonderful if Ulysses could export to Word with Footnotes. Actually, it would also be wonderful if Ulysses would have an easier way of setting footnotes (rather than requiring the user to the markup to link it, have a "New Footnote" contextual menu item that places a tag at the current cursor location, creates a new note, prepopulates it with the corresponding tag, and then places the cursor exactly where it needs to be.

    Also, I live in a country where the rules of style are all described in metric measurements (margins, indents, etc. are in cm, not inches). I have not been able to find a preference to change the units from inches, and converting each measurement manually results in weird inches values like 1.833434954545. If there is a preference to change this, could someone please point me in the right direction?

    I just wrote a paper for my master's degree in Ulysses, but due to the restrictions above I ended up having to do all of my formatting in Word (which accepts metric values), along with the footnotes, etc. I really think Ulysses is a great piece of software, but as I'm writing a few papers a week I really need something that will work seamlessly with Word.
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      CommentAuthormichael
    • CommentTimeNov 26th 2009 edited
     
    > It would be wonderful if Ulysses could export to Word with Footnotes.

    The problem with that is, the word format isn't documented. But why not just using the RTF format? Word can read this.

    > Actually, it would also be wonderful if Ulysses would have an easier way of setting footnotes (rather than requiring the user to the markup to link it, have a "New Footnote" contextual menu item that places a tag at the current cursor location, creates a new note, prepopulates it with the corresponding tag, and then places the cursor exactly where it needs to be.

    That is something, we can think about. Thanks for the suggestion.

    > Also, I live in a country where the rules of style are all described in metric measurements (margins, indents, etc. are in cm, not inches). [...] If there is a preference to change this, could someone please point me in the right direction?

    Ulysses uses the settings from the System Preferences. Open the System Preferences and go to the "Language & Text" section. In the "Formats" tab you can set the measurement units to metric.
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      CommentAuthorsmolk
    • CommentTimeNov 27th 2009
     
    I second the suggestion of a footnote contextual menu—that would be very helpful.
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      CommentAuthorjb
    • CommentTimeNov 27th 2009
     
    Let me add my voice on footnotes.

    The one thing that's a bit of a pain for me in using Ulysses is just this—the process of footnoting. Although the present system works, it's a minor drudgery.

    I'd love to see it made a bit easier.
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      CommentAuthormax
    • CommentTimeNov 27th 2009
     

    Yes, we got plans to make footnotes easier. And adding a contextual menu item will be pretty easy afterwards - now it's not :)

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      CommentAuthorlexm
    • CommentTimeNov 28th 2009
     
    May I make a footnotes suggestion? Perhaps Ulysses could be set up so that there is a footnote inline style. Upon export, text marked with this inline style would be converted to sequentially numbered footnotes.

    Currently, I put all of my footnote text in the main editor and mark it with an inline style. I then export to RTF and open it in Nisus Writer Pro or Pages and convert the marked passages to footnotes by hand. That part is cumbersome, but it's easier than renumbering the footnotes in Ulysses when I find I have to insert one between two existing ones (which happens a lot, given the less than linear way I write).

    Whatever you decide, I look forward to an easier way to make footnotes in Ulysses.
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      CommentAuthormichael
    • CommentTimeNov 28th 2009
     
    > Perhaps Ulysses could be set up so that there is a footnote inline style.

    It's already there. Just put a '-' right after the start tag and you get an inline footnote.

    Example:
    This is a little example of inline footnotes{{-This will be the footnote text}} in Ulysses.
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      CommentAuthormichael
    • CommentTimeNov 28th 2009
     
    > but it's easier than renumbering the footnotes in Ulysses when I find I have to insert one between two existing ones

    You don't have to do that. The exporters numbers the footnotes for you. What you put between the footnote tags is just a key.
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      CommentAuthorlexm
    • CommentTimeNov 28th 2009
     
    Thanks, Michael. That's exactly what I was looking for. I think I was led astray by the initial how-to for footnotes in the help:

    "To add a footnote, the key, enclosed in start and stop tag, has to be put at the position where the footnote should appear in the exported document, e.g. {{FN1}}. During the export, a footnote marker is put at this position. The text for the footnote can then be entered in the notes in the form "start tag - key - dash - footnote text - stop tag", for example1."

    Your explanation is clearer, I'll fire up Ulysses and try it.
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      CommentAuthorlexm
    • CommentTimeNov 28th 2009
     
    That's fantastic, Michael. Just what I've always wanted. Now I'll make like Emily Litella: "Never mind."
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    I've got a feature request for footnotes.

    When citing references in footnotes, it is very common to write "ibid." followed by the page number if two or more consecutive footnotes cite the same source. "Ibid." indicates that the immediately preceding reference is being cited again.

    But sometimes a changing text demands that footnotes be moved around or added, which can make it hard to keep track of where the "ibid." references ought to go. It would be great if I could somehow be warned if:
    a) I am moving a footnote that is immediately followed by an "ibid."
    b) I have added a new footnote in between an existing reference and an "ibid."
    c) I am moving an "ibid." to a new place where the preceding reference is not the same as the original.

    EDIT: Sorry to revive an old thread—I thought I was in a much more recent thread about footnotes when I posted.