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      CommentAuthorTharsgard
    • CommentTimeAug 14th 2011
     
    I've been poking around my new toys (Daedalus, Stapler, and Ulysses) and have been reading up on the forum. I thought I'd post my first impressions.
    #Top-Down Thoughts
    1. So far I like everything ... a lot.
    1. I see Stapler and Daedalus becoming great friends via iCloud and being the best desktop/mobile pairing for lightweight, plain text notes that may or may not include Markdown.
    1. I see Ulysses as being a different beast altogether, and I'm hoping that iOS5 will deliver the RTF control that seems to be the missing piece for Ulysses Mobile. I think Ulysses needs a mobile friend, also with syncing via iCloud, and I wouldn't bloat up DT to achieve this.
    1. I see Stapler benefiting from Lion's full-screen mode, ala Byword, but with support for the "stack" of notes paradigm of Stapler and Daedalus. You could even use Lion's swipes to go from note to note.
    #Bottom-Up Thoughts and Questions
    1. DT - The settings for the editor only appear when viewing or editing a specific page, even though these settings are global. I think a settings button, like the little gear that is often used, should be available at all times, and allow access to all global settings.
    1. DT - I can't figure out how to change sync settings once I've imported or synced a stack. A forum post indicated that this is possible, but it could be more obvious. For instance, hitting the sync button could pop up two buttons; "sync" and "sync settings" (like the little popup that appears when you go to delete an item, but with two choices).

    Keep up the excellent work. I hope to use these tools for lightweight work and as a hobby. My first real use for DT will be as a diary on an upcoming trip to Italy. I think it will be the perfect companion.
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      CommentAuthorniklas
    • CommentTimeAug 15th 2011 edited
     
    > DT - I can't figure out how to change sync settings once I've imported or synced a stack. A forum post indicated that this is possible, but it could be more obvious. For instance, hitting the sync button could pop up two buttons; "sync" and "sync settings" (like the little popup that appears when you go to delete an item, but with two choices).

    If you click and hold the button, you will get a pop-up that offers alternatives to change sync settings. Even if this may be a little less obvious for new users than your suggestion, I believe it is better once you've found it, as you won't have to step through that pop-up every time you want to sync (which will probably be a lot more often than when you want to change settings).

    I hadn't thought of Stapler as a companion to DT. Sounds interesting. I haven't really used Stapler a lot, but a dedicated upgrade that integrates with DT sounds intriguing. You are probably right that it would make more sense (long-term) to couple DT with Stapler, and Ulysses with a more advanced Ulysses mobile. Still, for now, the Ulysses-Daedalus combo works OK, once I have figured to a strategy for it. Not perfect, but quite workable. The important thing is that both apps are very good writing apps on their respective platforms, ant that is what matters most here, after all.

    Best, Niklas
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      CommentAuthorfehnman
    • CommentTimeAug 16th 2011
     

    DT - The settings for the editor only appear when viewing or editing a specific page, even though these settings are global. I think a settings button, like the little gear that is often used, should be available at all times, and allow access to all global settings.

    Hm, I know what you mean, though I have to disagree here. TextExpander, Spellcheck and Button Row are editor-only and wouldn't make any sense if they were available from stack overview, for example. However, the cosmetic settings, such as color, type/size probably have more effect on the way you write than on the rest of the app, so they also need to be accessible from within the editor.

    This means that we'd either have to do TWO settings in the editor or -- and that's what we opted for -- ONLY have settings in the editor and a less cluttered interface throughout the app. As we see it, most of the settings are one-timers anyway, except for maybe spellcheck and TE as well as dark-mode (when writing!), so having a global settings button, always visible in all the views, just for changing a persistent setting such as font/color, didn't seem such a good idea. :)

    Hope I make sense.

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      CommentAuthorTharsgard
    • CommentTimeAug 18th 2011
     
    I see your point as well. When I started using the app it seemed like all the buttons on the left affected the object in focus, while the upper right seemed like more global actions. This button seemed to be the exception. I've played around since, and perhaps my initial generalization wasn't quite accurate.

    I would be curious about how many user figure out the "press and hold" tricks. I didn't, but based on the response above for the sync settings, I proceeded to try it for the manual sort, which I had not yet figured out. Are there any other hidden actions?
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      CommentAuthorTharsgard
    • CommentTimeAug 18th 2011
     
    Hey, did you say "TextExpander?" Did you leak a feature for the next release, or does it not show up if TE isn't installed? I haven't purchased it yet, but would in a heartbeat if the integration exists.
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      CommentAuthorfehnman
    • CommentTimeAug 18th 2011
     

    Of course TE integration exists. :) And as you guessed, the setting won't show unless it's installed.

    As for "hidden features": One of the pre-installed stacks lists pretty much all gestures and features.

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      CommentAuthorTharsgard
    • CommentTimeAug 18th 2011
     
    I downloaded DT some time ago, but didn't use it. I must have deleted the pre-installed stacks, because I have only what I've created.

    I'm running into more frustrations, so is there someplace where I can look at the text files that made up the stacks?

    Otherwise, my new questions are:

    TextExpander - It's now installed with my snippets downloaded form Dropbox. I quite both applications, started TE, then started DT. I see no place to configure DT to use TE. I thought it might just work, so I tried some abbreviations. "ddate" worked, but none of the others did. What do I need to do?

    Keyboard row - I smudged across the "remove" button while customizing a toprow key. How do I add keys back?

    My apologies for the questions, but I'm not on the DT wavelength yet, and the deleted stacks seem to be a mandatory item.
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      CommentAuthorfehnman
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2011
     

    You can get the stacks back by going to iPad's settings.app and hit the switch on Daedalus' "Restore samole stacks".

    TextExpander is activated in the editor (Look & Feel). You must configure TextExander correctly though, to enable it in third party apps. Open TE and switch "Share Snippets" on. I also think you must start TE everytime you completely turn off your iPad in order for the sharing to work.

    Keyboard Row: Tap'n'hold a key, then hit the plus button on the row.

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      CommentAuthorTharsgard
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2011 edited
     
    Thanks again for all your help. I stumbled across the "restore" feature after posting and it worked nicely.

    TE is now working (I mistook the "share snippets" feature for the LAN sharing and left it off).

    The last issue is the keyboard row. When I tap and hold a key on the keyboard row, I see the popup to customize that key, but don't see a plus sign on the keyboard row itself. My eyes are substandard and I miss things (as if you haven't noticed that :) but I swear nothing appears on the keyboard row. Where on the row should I be looking? The plus icon on the popup adds an entry to the popup list, but what I'm talking about is adding and removing keys on the keyboard.

    EDIT: As soon as I posted this I had a thought and figured it out. **Press and hold a key, then hit "Edit" on the popup**. The plus signs aren't there until you hit edit. I'm now up and running. No more questions! Thanks.
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      CommentAuthorfehnman
    • CommentTimeAug 20th 2011
     

    EDIT: As soon as I posted this I had a thought and figured it out. Press and hold a key, then hit "Edit" on the popup. The plus signs aren't there until you hit edit. I'm now up and running. No more questions! Thanks.

    Of course. My bad, sorry, I missed the "edit" part. Glad you found it on your own. :)