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Ulysses 2.0: How to keep revisions?

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      CommentAuthortj
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2009
     
    what is the cleanest way to manage old revisions of documents?

    scrivener has snapshots, is there anything comparable?
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      CommentAuthorMaggot
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2009
     
    This is all a matter of taste, but - consider just throwing them away. Deleting them permanently. Otherwise you'll end up with drafts all over the place. And no software will help organise it. All that clutter. Just get rid of it. It can't be any good otherwise it wouldn't be an old draft, it'd be a current draft. Sure, there might be some good lines in there; maybe keep them in a special document or external file or database (I use DevonThink, but find I'm using it less - I'm beginning to think "good lines" aren't all that important). Then use the Ulysses system to keep the previous draft and the current one only. Again, it's just my opinion, but - there are too many words in the world. We need fewer but better words. I might be wrong: plenty of really really good writers keep every word they've ever written.

    Robert
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      CommentAuthorhertze
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2009
     
    I'd recommend using external versioning software, such as Git or Bazaar (see [this thread](http://www.the-soulmen.com/board/comments.php?DiscussionID=55)). Subversion works too, but not as fuss-free. Since they all are programmers tools they're a bit on the technical side. However, there are nice graphical client apps for Git and Subversion (not sure about Bazaar) for those who wants to stay away from the terminal.

    /Joakim
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      CommentAuthortj
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2009
     
    I'll take a look at git, I'd hoped to keep it in the app, but we can't always have what we want.

    and about revisions...i change enough from draft to draft of poetry that i do sometimes feel that an earlier draft had something better than my current. i am certainly annoyed by having a few copies of poems, but it frees me up to do what i would like without worrying about regret. my revisions became so much less painful when i started doing numbered versioning. usually i will find that some of my changes added and some didn't. or that old phrasing that was bad before now fits....

    so, while i do understand your sentiment...i must say it isn't for me.
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      CommentAuthorabridge
    • CommentTimeNov 5th 2009
     
    I think you're missing a major bet here with regard to revisions. I'm just trying out Ulysses and was shocked that there isn't a way to roll back to previous versions of a document. Since you're just working with text you could store the differences between versions of files. You could even use the old VAX/VMS method of versioning with the ";" to separate file-name and version as in:

    myfile;1
    myfile;2

    This way it's easy for me to go back and see the changes that have been made to a document and to reconstruct things as needed.

    In many ways you've put a fancy wrapper around the old "roff" markup word processors of the '70s! And a very nice one too, with nice output features. What I'm suggesting is very much a 70s - early 80s idea but you might find it worthwhile. As a user I'd find it almost vital in this context.
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      CommentAuthormax
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2009
     

    Yes and no. (what a great developer answer ;-) )

    Yes: We see the need for a versioning system, we know a lot of you want one.

    No: We don't believe any of the current implementations in any of the present writing tools is optimal. We have several ideas and these are lying here for quite some time now, revised in our brains, refined from time to time. It's just that other features have yet had a higher priority...

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